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Black Man
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Was Jesus a REAL person?
by Black Man inso i've reached the point where i've reconciled that the majority of bible stories that i was raised with are the works of fiction and are as real as cartoon and fairytales.
but jesus, i'm still crafting my view(s)on that.
jesus as the son of an almighty sky god, i don't believe.
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Was Jesus a REAL person?
by Black Man inso i've reached the point where i've reconciled that the majority of bible stories that i was raised with are the works of fiction and are as real as cartoon and fairytales.
but jesus, i'm still crafting my view(s)on that.
jesus as the son of an almighty sky god, i don't believe.
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Black Man
So I've reached the point where I've reconciled that the majority of bible stories that I was raised with are the works of fiction and are as real as cartoon and fairytales. But Jesus, I'm still crafting my view(s)on that. Jesus as the son of an almighty sky god, I don't believe. But I think there was a charismatic leader named Jesus who people back in the 1st century put a lot of hope and trust in. Our modern day calendar is based on the birth of a jesus figure, but I'm trying to reconcile that figure with all of the miracles associated w/him, which I don't believe.
So where are you with at with the whole Jesus concept? Any good threads on here where this was previously discussed? Was he real?
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What was the last meeting you ever went to?
by lilbluekitty ini figured out it's been 4 months and 5 days since my last meeting ever.
july 10th, it was a sunday.
i hadn't been there in 2 months or so and decided to see if anyone noticed i'd been gone.
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Black Man
Memorial 2009. Gave the talk, knew it would be my last meeting. Completely ditched the outline and talked about what it means to truly love our neighbor and show unconditional love. It was a poignant talk that most of the audience responded to. The other elders of course put a bullseye on my back.
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Why I Don't Believe in God or Organized Religion
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haven't officially walked away from the cult over a year ago (had been trying to apply a slow fade over a number of years) and now being able to think clearly, i can truly say that organized religion is the epitome of man's arrogance and ignorance.
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Black Man
Thanks for all of your insights! Was just articulating some thoughts that I was having!
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Black Man
So what say you, JWN?
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Does anyone recognize the Bethel Elder voice in this short video-audio clip who supposedly went on a shepherding call with a Governoring Body member?
by StoneWall inthis is most definitely a pro-jw clip from an elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where i'm at.. it's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the governoring body in a more positive light.
such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.. the voice seems familiar to me and yet i just can't place it.. the link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the org.
completely.. after hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, i too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.. makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and i are no longer slaves to a publishing company.. if you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.. anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or pm it to me.. it is bugging me because it seems like i should know this elder but can't place him at the moment.. here is the link to the vid/audio:.
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Black Man
The speaker's name is Mozell Mack...........
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I just can't do this anymore
by Awen indear friends:.
for years now after my exit from the wtbts i have searched for god.
as i have previously mentioned in other threads i looked into many other religions, including druidry, zen and tibetan buddhism (not really a religion), asatru, native american shamanism, kemetic orthodoxy, gnosticism and pandeism.
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Black Man
Great thread! Marked...........
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Bethel Chicks who were HOT
by Black Man ini occasionally recollect over some of the female bethelites - especially the hot ones.
i was there in the 90s, when the commuter program was in full swing and sisters would sign up as commuters often to snage a full-time bethelite.
anyone remember the wiggins sisters?
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Black Man
Sorry if this post was offensive to some - that was not the intent. Perhaps I should've said "attractive bethelites."
00Dad: Umm, its not that deep..............
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Bethel Chicks who were HOT
by Black Man ini occasionally recollect over some of the female bethelites - especially the hot ones.
i was there in the 90s, when the commuter program was in full swing and sisters would sign up as commuters often to snage a full-time bethelite.
anyone remember the wiggins sisters?
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Black Man
I occasionally recollect over some of the female Bethelites - especially the hot ones. I was there in the 90s, when the commuter program was in full swing and sisters would sign up as commuters often to snage a full-time bethelite. Anyone remember the Wiggins sisters? There were 3 of them who got quite a bit of attention from regular staff. In the infirmary you had the lovely Nicolette - who I wonder whatever became of.
On the married tip, there were a few bethelites with fine wives. I remember Preston Griffin's wife (who everyone said looked like Halle Berry). She couldn't wait to get out the madhouse and was able to by getting pregnant.
Any hot bethel chicks you remember - what say you??!!